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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying none of this would have happened if barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from arurubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying none of this would have happened if barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. >> right. it always tightens. something happened last night. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...
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. >> secretary of state hillary clinton echoed obama's words. she says the use of chemical weapons is a red line for the u.s. she warned her country would certainly plan to take action should that happen. foreign ministry spokespersons in syria have responded to clinton and obama. they say even if such weapons were available the assad administration would not use them under any circumstances against the syrian people. >>> aid workers from the united nations and the european union continue to provide humanitarian services even after u.n. cease-fire monitors withdrew from syria in august. now officials have decided to withdraw their remaining personnel. they say it's just too dangerous. >> the united nations and syria will pull out non-essential international personnel with immediate effect. >> nesirky said any u.n. personnel who stay behind will be restricted to the capital damascus. eu sources said their ambassador and two other diplomats would be recalled. they say about ten syrian employees will take over information gathering and liaison acti
. >> secretary of state hillary clinton echoed obama's words. she says the use of chemical weapons is a red line for the u.s. she warned her country would certainly plan to take action should that happen. foreign ministry spokespersons in syria have responded to clinton and obama. they say even if such weapons were available the assad administration would not use them under any circumstances against the syrian people. >>> aid workers from the united nations and the european union...
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bush, bill clinton, and george w. bush along with other key staffers from obama's campaign. on thursday, longoria wrote on twitter she's so excited and honored to co-chair the event. of course, more celebrity names will start popping up as the big day draws even closer since this is a president that was widely supported in hollywood. you may also remember that back in 2009, jay-z, beyonce, aretha franklin were at the 2009 inauguration. it is going to be another star-studded event and short time from now, right around the corner. >> get your tickets now. get them now. they will be sold out whatever it is, plane, train, automobile, whatever. thank you, kareen wynter. >>> for the latest entertainment headlines makes you sure you watch "showbiz tonight." hol dawes are here. how are some businesses finding ways to keep jobs while others are failing? tom foreman went looking for some answers in today's american journey. >> reporter: amid the bustle of broadway against the bad economy and crushing competition at the strand the show goes on. started more than 80 years ago, this inde
bush, bill clinton, and george w. bush along with other key staffers from obama's campaign. on thursday, longoria wrote on twitter she's so excited and honored to co-chair the event. of course, more celebrity names will start popping up as the big day draws even closer since this is a president that was widely supported in hollywood. you may also remember that back in 2009, jay-z, beyonce, aretha franklin were at the 2009 inauguration. it is going to be another star-studded event and short time...
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this thing should haunt hillary clinton. believe me it was a political decision by mrs. clinton to not go out and do those talk shows on sunday. it's one thing to come out bill and make a statement saying this is what i believe happened. it's another thing to sit for the committees. you put ambassador rice out there and everybody knows even chris wallace knew he couldn't pound her too hard because it's not her bailiwick. this thing should haunt hillary clinton. it should haunt barack obama and the american people, the second greatest tragedy here after the death of four americans is the fact that more americans are not pushing for answers on what happened in benghazi. >> bill: all right. there thor, thanks very much. and i must say that i'm an admirer of mr. thor's work. it's always very very interesting to read. when we come right back, it will be miller time. higher taxes, the royal pregnancy and unicorns all on the rundown tonight. miller is next. >> bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly in the miller time s
this thing should haunt hillary clinton. believe me it was a political decision by mrs. clinton to not go out and do those talk shows on sunday. it's one thing to come out bill and make a statement saying this is what i believe happened. it's another thing to sit for the committees. you put ambassador rice out there and everybody knows even chris wallace knew he couldn't pound her too hard because it's not her bailiwick. this thing should haunt hillary clinton. it should haunt barack obama and...
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and secretary clinton did. we understand the red line. the world, this week, certainly growing concern about syria's potential use of chemical weapons. can we ask you your view on this. how concerned are you? how imminent are your concerns? and should assad believe that his weapons are sheltered and safe from potential -- a potential response in a potential military action by anyone? >> well, without commenting on the specific intelligence that we have with regards to the chemical weapons, there is no question that we remain very concerned, very concerned that as the ouch suggestion advances in particular damascus and the regime, we very well consider the use of chemical well -- weapons. the whole world is watching. the world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be cops consequenceses -- consequences there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons. i'm not going speculate, comment on what the
and secretary clinton did. we understand the red line. the world, this week, certainly growing concern about syria's potential use of chemical weapons. can we ask you your view on this. how concerned are you? how imminent are your concerns? and should assad believe that his weapons are sheltered and safe from potential -- a potential response in a potential military action by anyone? >> well, without commenting on the specific intelligence that we have with regards to the chemical...
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will president obama choose one of them or will he choose someone else? with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited...
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>> in 2009 before obama, not a very expansive or hugely heartfelt way, said i'm now for marriage equality. again it was not a big statement. i think he feels like i did that, what more do i have to do. i think doma is such a nasty bit of legislation, codified bigotry, it calls for more robust than that. >> the important divergence that frank is identifying between the two democratic presidents. president obama's justice department did make the unusual step of deciding not to defend the constitutionality of doma, typically the justice department defends everything because it is the lawyer of the laws of the land. here they have the discretion to do otherwise. they did otherwise. it makes a difference. as the lower courts and potentially the supreme court, as they look at this, they look to the political branches and now we have the president of the united states, one of the political branches saying this is not constitutional, it violates equal protection, should be to a heightened scrutiny. you have arguments from holder we should look at discrimination against people who happen to be gay
>> in 2009 before obama, not a very expansive or hugely heartfelt way, said i'm now for marriage equality. again it was not a big statement. i think he feels like i did that, what more do i have to do. i think doma is such a nasty bit of legislation, codified bigotry, it calls for more robust than that. >> the important divergence that frank is identifying between the two democratic presidents. president obama's justice department did make the unusual step of deciding not to defend...
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. >>> as the fiscal cliff looms president obama is digging in his heels. ktvu alison burns reports the president says the wealthiest americans must pay higher taxes. alison. >> reporter: the president is refusing to agree to anything else unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest 2% of americans. in fact, there are some reports this morning that the president isn't even going to hold any other face to face or one on one meetings with republicans until they cave on that demand. john boehner was at the lighting of the if christmas tree last night. republicans are instead offering to close tax loopholes and limit tax deductions that favor the wealthy while extending current tax rates for the middle class. frustration is clearly growing on both sides. >> speaker's proposal right now is is still out of balance. >> we wasted an enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public. it strikes me as a good time to get serious about the proposals. >> reporter: a very big potential problem for speaker boehner even if he's willing to compromise with preside
. >>> as the fiscal cliff looms president obama is digging in his heels. ktvu alison burns reports the president says the wealthiest americans must pay higher taxes. alison. >> reporter: the president is refusing to agree to anything else unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest 2% of americans. in fact, there are some reports this morning that the president isn't even going to hold any other face to face or one on one meetings with republicans until they cave on that demand....
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obama ite squeezing the grip of the bashar al-assad's regime's control all over syria, jon. >> reporter: conor powell live in jerusalem. we will have a lot more on the crisis rocking syria and the very real concerns about chemical weapons there. ambassador john bolton will weigh in on that when he joins us just a few minutes from now. jenna: growing concerns not only in syria, but in egypt and the violence there a day after angry protestors force the president, president morsi to leave the presidential palace. now he's back, and the stage is set for a new confrontation. we are going to talk about what this all means for us here at home. plus, the tv show that got this guy so fired up cops say he shot his girlfriend. well now he's charged with attempted murder. we'll tell you more about that story next. [ male announcer ] are you considering a new medicare plan? then you may be looking for help in choosing the right plan for your needs. so don't wait. call now. whatever your health coverage needs, unitedhealthcare can help you find the right plan. are you looking for something nice and e
obama ite squeezing the grip of the bashar al-assad's regime's control all over syria, jon. >> reporter: conor powell live in jerusalem. we will have a lot more on the crisis rocking syria and the very real concerns about chemical weapons there. ambassador john bolton will weigh in on that when he joins us just a few minutes from now. jenna: growing concerns not only in syria, but in egypt and the violence there a day after angry protestors force the president, president morsi to leave...
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over his budget plan. >>> hillary clinton is the lead candidate for 2016, a new poll shows. she keeps saying no, no, no. but will she heed the call? >> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. >>> new details on the murde murder/suicide involving kansas city chief jovan belcher. what the 911 calls reveal about the slaying of his girlfriend. >>> what you should absolutely stay away from. >>> packed show for you this morning. jeb henserling is joining us. american federation of teachers and our guest as well is randi weingarten. "starting point" begins right now. >>> morning. welcome, everybody. our "starting point" this morning, president obama says he will not bend in this fiscal cliff debate. americans face the prospect of severe tax hikes, spending cuts if republicans and democrats can't get together to work out some deal. congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. if they don't extend that, it will be ten days from then that we fall off the fiscal cliff. >> if we're going to be serious about reducing our deficit while still being able to invest in things like education and research an
over his budget plan. >>> hillary clinton is the lead candidate for 2016, a new poll shows. she keeps saying no, no, no. but will she heed the call? >> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. >>> new details on the murde murder/suicide involving kansas city chief jovan belcher. what the 911 calls reveal about the slaying of his girlfriend. >>> what you should absolutely stay away from. >>> packed show for you this morning. jeb henserling is joining us. american...
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you talked about presidents from obama to george w. bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is cer
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we know the president spent time with bill clinton recently. what is your sense how potent this is for president obama and whether or not he would take the step of taking out these facilities before this could happen? >> well i think we obviously known about the threat of syria's chemical weapons capability for a long time and this conflict has been going on now, getting close to two years. so we're a little bit late in the game to finally be worried about what might happen. in fact, there is actually a bigger risk in my view. it will be a tragedy if the weapons are used against the opposition in syria. but the potential for an even larger tragedy exists if the opposition gets hold of these chemical weapons, the terrorist elements in the opposition and sends them outside syria where they could be used by terrorists around the world. so the threat, although our immediate focus is the risk inside syria, i don't think we can ignore. i think america's focus ought to be the threat expanding worldwide. martha: now we know the weapons exist. you say w
we know the president spent time with bill clinton recently. what is your sense how potent this is for president obama and whether or not he would take the step of taking out these facilities before this could happen? >> well i think we obviously known about the threat of syria's chemical weapons capability for a long time and this conflict has been going on now, getting close to two years. so we're a little bit late in the game to finally be worried about what might happen. in fact,...
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. >> the public attitudes changed, not only president obama supporting same sex marriage, president clinton who signed defense of marriage act into law, he supports gay marriage, but the american public attitudes have changed. back in 2005, 35% thought same sex marriage should be recognized. now it is up to 53%. here is the question. do the justices, the nine justices, are they influenced by public opinion? >> you bet. they sure are. this is an issue that wouldn't even have been on the agenda had the public not changed so dramatically. let me just tell you a story from supreme court history. 1986, the first real significant gay rights case that the court ever had, the swing vote at the time was lewis powell. and he was in his chambers, said to his law clerk, you know, i don't think i ever met a homosexual. no justice would say that today. as it turned out, that law clerk himself was a gay man, although he didn't disclose it to the justice at the time. the world has changed so dramatically, the polls have changed. justice ruth ginsberg often talks about the reason she won as a lawyer all the
. >> the public attitudes changed, not only president obama supporting same sex marriage, president clinton who signed defense of marriage act into law, he supports gay marriage, but the american public attitudes have changed. back in 2005, 35% thought same sex marriage should be recognized. now it is up to 53%. here is the question. do the justices, the nine justices, are they influenced by public opinion? >> you bet. they sure are. this is an issue that wouldn't even have been on...
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. >>> president obama is meeting with two different groups today. both have concerns about the fiscal cliff crisis. he will lead with the ceos of business leaders and then later, he will meet with native- american tribal leaders. the one issue where he's refusing to budge in fiscal cliff issues. >>> the voters passed prop 30, which raises taxes on people who earn more than $250,000 a year. it also increases the sales tax. well, the ucla and der son forecast says because of prop 30 -- anderson forecast says because of prop 30, unemployment will not improve as fast and personal income will be less than expected. but economists say california is still on track for economic growth and more jobs. >>> well, sheriffs in solano county want your help. they are trying to catch vandals who damaged a home known for its holiday displays. every year, bob and linda taylor transform their home in vallejo on glencove road into a christmas wonderland. but this year, someone ripped down some of their lights and dragged them in the streets and they were run over. the t
. >>> president obama is meeting with two different groups today. both have concerns about the fiscal cliff crisis. he will lead with the ceos of business leaders and then later, he will meet with native- american tribal leaders. the one issue where he's refusing to budge in fiscal cliff issues. >>> the voters passed prop 30, which raises taxes on people who earn more than $250,000 a year. it also increases the sales tax. well, the ucla and der son forecast says because of...
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but the 39.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people pretty much told a lot of us they were confident it was going to be a long night and that they would win. i want to read you something from the new republic about team romney's internal polling. says the biggest flaw in their polling was the failure to predict the demographic composition of the electorate. the people who showed up to vote on november 6 were younger and less white than team romney anticipated and far more democratic as a result. so i want to ask you, erick, is this sort of a misunderstanding generally that republicans have to address the next time they go into an election about who the vot
but the 39.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people...
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president obama was before the law before he was against it. but now the administration is pushing the supreme court bill to overturn doma as well. already two lower courts said the clause that bars same sex spouses from receiving federal benefits like social security, survivor benefits, insurance, violates the constitutional guarantee of equal protection. that is why observers say it is very rare that the high court would allow these lower courts to strike down an act of congress without weighing in which is why many expect them to take one of the doma cases up this spring. bill: is it possible they could take up another similar case? >> reporter: it is. there are two other cases involved. let me tell you what those are. 9th case california's controversial proposition 8 when voters overturned the state court riling that allowed gays to marry. the 10th case comes from arizona where they are challenging a law state took away health benefits of domestic partners of state workers. it's possible that the court could take those up as well, bill but
president obama was before the law before he was against it. but now the administration is pushing the supreme court bill to overturn doma as well. already two lower courts said the clause that bars same sex spouses from receiving federal benefits like social security, survivor benefits, insurance, violates the constitutional guarantee of equal protection. that is why observers say it is very rare that the high court would allow these lower courts to strike down an act of congress without...
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secretary of state hillary clinton. will it be u.n. ambassador susan rice or john kerry? >> well, for defense secretary who will it be? senator john kerry possible for that. and of course the vietnam vet later turned against the war and raises a huge red flag in the near future and the veterans for america join us now, hi, pete. >> thanks for having he me. >> read the pre-interview with you. and you're not a fan of either of these choices. what worries you? >> well, a great deal does, and a lot of it comes to judgment and you played the clip about john kerry and iraq and i still found myself in iraq, imagine that? and he's, both of them have records, set aside benghazi, set aside some of the recent events with susan rice and judgments on management of conflicts called into question and she was in the national security council back in 1993 when rwanda kicked off and she made a controversial comment about, well, if we call it a genocide and don't act. what will be the implications on the november mid term election? and if
secretary of state hillary clinton. will it be u.n. ambassador susan rice or john kerry? >> well, for defense secretary who will it be? senator john kerry possible for that. and of course the vietnam vet later turned against the war and raises a huge red flag in the near future and the veterans for america join us now, hi, pete. >> thanks for having he me. >> read the pre-interview with you. and you're not a fan of either of these choices. what worries you? >> well, a...